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To me this is like dark matter or placebo effects. We are being asked to believe in a great many hypothetical things that we cannot observe and to disbelieve things that we can observe as easily and as frequently as we wish. We are asked to believe in vague "unknown confounders" in twin studies. Can anyone propose a single sensible confounder that could explain this discrepancy? And what even counts as an "environment"? Do we actually observe siblings having the same environmental experiences? The events of my life have only a fractional overlap with those of my siblings. I was not even present for most of the things that would have befallen them. For some reason we all go around talking about "shared environment" like we know what it means. Unless you are a conjoined twin, I cannot imagine how you could have the same "environment" in any scientific sense.

And this is the heart of it to me. If siblings in the same household frequently not share meaningful experiences, then whatever tiny sliver of "shared environment" does exist must be even smaller when we compare MZ and DZ twins. The difference between being dressed the same and being referred to as "the twins" is trivial in scale compared with the sheer magnitude of the MZ–DZ correlation gap. These minor differences cannot possibly account for systematic and reproducible heritability estimates. The non-shared experiences overwhelms everything, and what environmental similarity remains is negligible. If anything, the divergence of lived experience strengthens the logic of twin studies, because it means the confounding potential of environment becomes vanishingly small.

To my mind, twin studies are therefore definitive, akin to testing a gun by shooting yourself. They control for any confounder that matters, and what we are more likely witnessing is some peculiar problem in how modern statistical methods carve up genetic variance. When one method captures the whole landscape and another measures only a thin slice of it, the discrepancy should not surprise us.

It is a case of the math telling us the moon is made of cheese and that we should jump off that cliff. My suggestion is to keep a firm grip on reality. Yes, it is hard to explain how three methods could converge, but it is like asking "can people levitate?". It is a question of what is clearly visible to the naked eye, and not in the sense of a streak in the dark but in the sense of something you can observe repeatedly, like the sun.

Gerry P's avatar

I'm not qualified to have an opion or ask a meaningful question here. Just wanted to say thank you.

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