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Matjaž Horvat's avatar

‚in the North (where people are taller) as “height increasing” and all of the alleles that are slightly more common in the South as “height decreasing”‘

Not in ex-Yugoslavia. There be giants here. 😂

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Federico Soto del Alba's avatar

Respectfully, I see several perhaps fundamental problems to this kind of research, although I admit the post is really good:

1.- There is no causal model, no theoretical model using the dependent variables, with few exceptions, exceptions in which causal models are probably incomplete enough, like Height, to explain relatively small differences in it across individuals and populations. We know a lot about the Biology of things like Growth-Hormones, and some diseases like short stature or truly outstanding large ones. And the causality in those cases is easier to find because its effects are really large: they can be seen just by looking at people having those diseases.

2.- As such, doing correlational research, empirical research, without a causal model, a scientific one, looks to me like a fishing trip, even if outwardly can be justified as trying to build those models from correlations, like inspirational sources for at some point have a Scientific Theory to go along expectations and experiments, instead of having one before even designing experiments. But unfortunately, so far, I think it is not only fair, but accurate to say those correlations seem to be all over the map: from the positive, to the negative, to the non-existent, and worse: and back to a previous category, apparently. Typical observations of publishable research fishing trips...

3.- I see caveats in the heritability interpretation of some of the results:

a) Until deep into the 20th Century most progeny, most descendants, died before reaching the tender age of 1-10yrs of age. At least half, my guess is probably larger, but there are prominent disagreers with better credentials than me, and there is the issue child cadavers tend not to be well preserved in a relatively adequate time frame to study child mortality across History, let alone preHistory, and with such information studying the Evolution of things like reproductive success will be lacking, so there is a source of uncertainty which will never go away. But such kind of points to me Evolution/Natural Selection probably until around 100yrs ago had little influence on Genomes to increase some of the hypothetical outcome variables, including reproductive success.

b) Comparisons of reproductive success with something else does have a Historical Comparison Problem, maybe even an anchoring problem: Until recently most Families had way more descendants than now. So correlating reproductive success even with genetics now, will suffer perhaps the same lack of explanatory and predictive power History many times has: things changed, and as such, a Scientific Theory cannot be made because it will lack the explanatory and predictive power to include Reproductive Success in the past. It would be at best an incomplete theory.

c) Brain analogies to explain academic achievement, socio-economic class belonging, and IQ, done through a bigger brain narrative, for example, do have a strong negative selection in the disparity between a baby´s head and a woman´s birth canal, and complications arising from other stuff like spontaneous abortions, premature deliveries, placenta related diseases, etc. And such has changed too: nowadays fatalities or disabilities as outcomes of pregnancy and delivery are measured in parts per thousands. My guess in the past they were more frequent, but off my memory I don´t have a number. And it probably has the same problems as b). Even infections during pregnancy causing product fatalities or neonate disabilities has changed a lot too. It seems a moving target so to speak to me.

Things I think makes the existence of a Scientific Theory, not Humanities Models more important, more needed before doing and publishing research like this one. Sociology is not a Science, Psychology and Psychiatry are not Sciences either, even if Encyclopedias and a lot of people say and worse, claim they are.

They are not, they are Humanities and as such, they are outside of Science and its Methods. They use Hermeneutics not Logic nor Science to create narratives with explanatory power in the Hermeneutical meaning of Explanation, not in a Scientific one.

I have a Post, a comedic one, explaining those Fundamental Requirements all Sciences must have, and Humanities do not have them all, protestations to the contrary or worse claims explicit or implicit like in not saying a word about, its irrelevance notwithstanding to a Definition:

https://federicosotodelalba.substack.com/p/sci-and-math-are-having-a-full-conversation?r=4up0lp

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